Are You Dead? Corinne Part II

Subject: Are You Dead? Part II

Postmarked: New York State, USA

There was a helium balloon floating around her home that scared her a bit because it felt like someone was there. Then she realized it was just a balloon and she was freaking out over nothing. But then she saw a little girl peeking around the corners and heard her laughing. 

She was telling this story at a barbecue, and one of the adults told her, "NEVER SPEAK OF THIS AGAIN. Those are shadow people." 

In a previous episode, I read a Something Weird story that was submitted by Corinne through my website form. She tells the story of a vivid dream involving dead relatives and some premonition of another relative's passing.

In Part II, Corinne joins me as we explore her submission tale and a few others.

For full episodes and to share YOUR twisted tale, go to https://www.bethannecampbell.com/somethingweird

And remember… stay skeptical, but don't run TOWARDS the noise!

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SPEAKER_01 0:00

There was a helium balloon floating around her home that scared her a bit because it felt like someone was there. Then she realized it's just a balloon and she was freaking out over nothing. But then she started seeing a little girl peeking around the corners, and she heard this little girl laughing when there was no one there. She was telling the story at a barbecue, and one of the adults told her, never speak of this again. Those are shadow people. I'm Beth Ann Campbell, and this is Something Weird Happened Here. Welcome to Something Weird Happened Here, the podcast for people who love a twisted tale but aren't afraid to poke at it a bit. We share stories that are postmarked peculiar and then explore the story with curiosity and an open mind. Stay tuned after the show to find out how to submit your strange saga, and maybe we or you will share it on air. Now let's get started, because no matter where you are in this mysterious world, something weird happened here. This tale is postmarked New York State, USA. Subject line, Are You Dead? Part 2. Today I'm talking with Corinne, whose story I shared in the last episode. I'm so happy we could connect because I had so many questions. So now we get to hear Corinne's story from her own mouth and some other experiences that she's had. Corinne, welcome to Something Weird Happened Here. Corinne! Hello. How are you? I'm good. How are you? I'm doing great. Um, so I did I did an episode where I I just basically read, by the way, um, you're a great writer. You you would not believe some of the stuff I get submitted is it really needs a lot of um massaging. But yours was amazing and a great story. And it also reminded me of uh my own um dream visitation that I had. So um I would love to start off by if you could kind of tell the tale of this dream that you had, kind of in your own words. And now, yay, I'm here. I can if I have any questions, I can ask you. Um, and you know, if there's anything that you know maybe you missed or or that I didn't um put out there, but yeah, tell tell me in your in your words.

SPEAKER_00 2:18

I guess I should start off with how my mother's house is set up. My childhood home where I grew up. The bottom level growing up was our playroom, my sister and I's playroom. It has its own little kitchenette, its own bathroom. It's the entire size of my my house. So it's a large, large room. And then um, later on in life, my parents got divorced, and my mother decided to rent out that downstairs in-law suite type of room.

SPEAKER_02 2:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:43

And I became one of the renters. So this story happens in while I'm living in this house, dreaming about this home. So I went to sleep, and I use that term loosely because I'm not really sure if I was sleeping or if I was in a different state of consciousness. Um, and I was having this experience where I was very cognizant of the fact that I was laying on a very cold, hard rock slab. And there was this thing that I thought at first was like an axe because it kind of brought me back to those like torture devices from back in the day where like it swings and then it gets lower. And so it was it was terrifying and it was frightening. And I kept on hearing these voices saying, Are you dead? Are you dead? And I couldn't locate where these voices were coming from. It was if they were coming from like a speaker or something that there was nobody else in the room with me. Um, so I was like, Am I dead? I don't know. And I started to, I guess, explore what was happening to me. And I know they say in dreams you're never supposed to look in the mirror, and I understand now why they say that, because I did look in the mirror and I saw what looked almost like the crypt keeper, I guess you could say. Um, like my hair was long, it was had obviously like fallen out, it was gray, my eyes were glossed over in this milky coloring. Um, they were blue, my eyes are not blue, but it was like a blue, glazy, milky thing. And I was like, oh my gosh, what is what is happening to me? And as I was trying to figure out what was happening to me, I woke up and um it was so cold in my apartment room that I could actually physically see my breath coming out of my mouth, it like sub-zero, like cold. And I don't know how in the world I was able to go back to sleep after that because I was straight up terrified. But very shortly after, I just like I was like, whoo, well, glad that's over, and kind of just like went back to sleep again. And at this point, I heard in my dream like state, I guess, the sound of the dishwasher being loaded or unloaded, which was kind of significant to me because when I when we were kids, that's how my sister and I knew somebody was home or somebody was awake and you know it was okay to go upstairs and and hang out with the family because they were unloading or loading the dishwasher. So that was a familiar, somebody's here, you somebody you want to go see and talk to is here type of sound. Um, so I went up to the the kitchen in this dream to see who it was, and I was just I was stopped in my tracks because it was an uncle of mine who had passed away from colon cancer um many years back, many years before that. And his name's Thomas. And I said, Uncle Thomas? And he kind of like looked around like I like the way I was when I was on that slab, like I can hear a voice, I have no idea where it's coming from, I don't know what's going on, but I hear something. Obviously, it's saying uncle, so it must know me. Like he was very much looking around, like curious to what was trying to get his attention. Um, and he just kind of stopped what he was doing and walked down the hallway of my childhood home and into my sister's room, which is the first room you'll come to when you walk down the hallway, and opened the door and closed it behind him with no sense that I was behind him at all. So I opened the door and again I called out to him, Uncle Thomas? Like, what are you? I'm so confused. I just have this weird experience. Now you're here. What the heck is going on? And at the same time, it was so warm in the house. And I'm not like a heat person, I don't deal with heat very well, but it was a very like loving wrapping around me like peaceful warmth. It was very hot, but it wasn't uncomfortable at all. It was just like lovely. Um and I opened the door um and I saw him start to open the door to my sister's closet where the light was even brighter. It was almost like white, white light, this very bright white light where I couldn't even really see much of anything anymore, but I could make out his silhouette and he was with somebody. Um, and they walked through together. The closet door closed on its own. My dream ended, and I woke up and I was still so warm, and I had that like very warm feeling. And I was like, what in the world just happened? And right as I woke up, I got a phone call from my father to let me know that my aunt, who had been battling breast cancer and wasn't doing well, had just passed away. So in my mind, there is no doubt that I witnessed my uncle. You know, they say when you pass away that you see your loved ones and they come to greet you and they they bring you to the other side. And I there's no way you can convince me that that wasn't what I witnessed.

SPEAKER_01 7:44

Yeah. I have so many questions. So many questions. Oh, please, because I just talked a lot. Yeah. No, this is great. So um I want to go back to when you initially your the first part of the dream before you've woke up to the freezing, you're on the slab with something, a pendulum of something. Was it familiar to you at all? Just completely not at all.

SPEAKER_00 8:08

It was nothing like I had ever seen or experienced before in my life.

SPEAKER_01 8:13

If if we take it at um the the truth that this was a visitation, what do you what do you think that that part of the dream was about? Have you thought about what did it mean?

SPEAKER_00 8:28

Yeah, I dissected it a lot, and I don't know how it connects to the second part, but I'm pretty sure that what I experienced at that part of the dream was some type of like I guess almost purgatory or like holding place.

SPEAKER_01 8:42

That's what I thought too. Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking.

SPEAKER_00 8:46

The pendulum that I eventually figured out was a pendulum, and the voices I think were um people in an alternate timeline or whatever you we believe, different life or whatever, trying to channel other side of the veils somewhere. Yeah, that's what you use a pendulum for. So it would it would make sense. Oh, okay. All right, that makes sense. Or one of the reasons you would use a pendulum. So that's but I don't I still am confused at how it connects to the second part.

SPEAKER_01 9:16

What what when you say pendulum, what do you what is to describe that to me? Because in my mind, I'm thinking, you know, a blade, a blade that's about to cut you in half. Is that not what you were seeing? That is okay. That's what it felt like. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 9:33

But the more I thought about it, a lot of um people when they um I don't know the exact terminology, but when they're trying to connect to different spiritual people, will use like it's almost it'll almost look like a necklace with a crystal at the end of it. I have one.

SPEAKER_01 9:47

Yeah, I think it's called scrying, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:49

Yeah, and and they'll they'll swing it. So I think this was like a stone fascinating.

SPEAKER_01 9:55

I know you know, yeah, it yeah, that actually makes more sense than what I was thinking. Like she's gonna she's gonna be cut in half. How is that? Does that even relate? But it would make sense if you're you know, you're in a dream state, right? And your your um images, right, get you know, weirded out and stuff. Um I think it's also interesting too, because my next question was uh the voices, were they talking to you? Are you dead, or do you think that they were talking because you also just mentioned that you know it could be people trying to get in touch or I don't know, maybe praying or on beyond the veil or whatever. Do you think that were they talk? Do you think when they were asking, Are you dead, were they talking to you, or you were just hearing them?

SPEAKER_00 10:38

So this is gonna be a weird answer. I think they were talking to me because I was the only person in the room. Yeah, but I don't think I was me. So I mean, obviously I wasn't dead. I think maybe I was somebody else that had passed that somebody else was trying to get in contact with. Maybe obviously it wasn't me because I I didn't look like that.

SPEAKER_01 11:02

Well, this is true. This is well, that's true, that's true. But I also was thinking too when you were just when you were saying that, that uh if it was if it were somebody trying to get in touch with someone, maybe mistaking you for someone, if you were just let's say hypothetically caught in this um the we'll call it purgatory for lack of a better word, but this place where you're able to kind of experience this between life and death thing, whatever it is. And um that um, you know, maybe that you were somebody was was trying to communicate with someone and just and the path of least resistance, maybe an intuitive or something, but I forgot about the fact that you you were not you. Who who do you think who do you think you were?

SPEAKER_00 11:54

I don't know. The only so I mentioned before that I was kind of confused as to how that first experience and the second experience correlated. Yeah. And and this happened many, many years ago. So I think just the only reconciliation that my brain could come up with was that I was meant to see the second part, and somehow as I was getting there, took a wrong turn, maybe, and like experienced something else. And so maybe my I don't know, my spirit, my soul, my whatever, my a different being in a different timeline, whatever it is, shifted accidentally and went to this place, and then I that's why I woke up, I think. So that that's really the only I don't know, the only logical thing that I can come up with for what that evening was.

SPEAKER_01 12:43

If it if you hadn't seen a different person, I almost would say, could it have been like this is gonna be a weird word, but like a mud room to purgatory, right? That you were going through. Like, yeah. Do you but could it could do you think that it I know you said it had blue eyes, but if if somebody were to have a pro you know, like in death, right? That milky thing could be a perfectly normal thing. I mean, could it could do you think it could have been you?

SPEAKER_00 13:10

It could have, yeah, it could have been. And maybe it was me in a in an alternate timeline in the future, in the way future. I honestly I've thought of all the things and I'm all of them.

SPEAKER_01 13:22

Um, so when you woke up, you said it was it was so cold that your breath, you could see your breath. And I'm I'm just gonna ask it, I'm assuming it, but I'm assuming that you you're in a temperature-controlled environment, so there would be no reason for it to be, you know, freezing cold.

SPEAKER_00 13:38

Right. Uh well, so this was right before Christmas. Um, so it could have been like a malfunction temporarily in our heat. I don't uh it would take so long to get out.

SPEAKER_01 13:50

Yeah. Uh in when you okay, so in this the in the second part, uh, when you woke, you woke up, then you went back to sleep, and then you're you're in your your home, you hear the dishwasher clinking. It's your uncle Thomas, he can't hear you or see you, but you can hear him and he's or I think he can hear you, but he can't see, right? Because you were calling out. Right. Are you at that point uh in this dreamish state? Are you aware you must be aware that he's dead, right? In the dream.

SPEAKER_00 14:23

Yes. Yeah, because I was like, what are you doing here? Like, where and the the environment too is kind of like uh hazy, I guess, because it was it was very bright. So uh at first I was like, what is going on? Is this really you? Like, this can't possibly be happening right now because there's no logical explanation for why you're standing in my kitchen unloading our dishwasher.

SPEAKER_01 14:49

Um have you had other dreams that are felt real? And I I asked this because I don't have a lot of dreams, and I think I said this in the previous episode when I read your story. I don't have a time, I'm gonna have dreams and I remember them, but I don't have a lot of dreams where I'm where I just think, oh my god, that was so real. And then I talked about the one I had with with my own mother where I I knew that she was dead in my dream. I knew that this was like a a just a an amazing opportunity and moment that I could be with her. And so I hugged her and I could smell her, and um, but that doesn't happen a lot. Do you have you had other dreams that were equally as vivid?

SPEAKER_00 15:32

Um, I've had other experiences, but not really so much dreams. So I did have I did have a dream that my best friend and I in middle school were swimming. I forget where we were swimming to, but we were swimming and something had happened. And then the next day um in our gym class, we had a a unit in the pool and she had a seizure. And um I was one of the people who helped to save her life. And she's like, Well, we're gonna be best friends for the rest of my life now because you saved my life. And that's really the only other dream type of experience that I've had, where like something has come true or something that I've dreamt about. But I mean, all through my life I've had like I get really bad deja vu to the point where I can say, This is what's gonna happen next and be right. That happens a lot. Fascinating.

SPEAKER_01 16:28

So, yeah, so so tell me about um when when when is the first time that you had something weird happen where you thought, mm, like maybe, maybe I mean, and have you ever considered? I guess maybe my first question is have you ever considered that you could be psychic sensitive, clairvoyant, clairsentient, clairudient?

SPEAKER_00 16:49

100%, yeah. Yes, I explored it. Um yeah, and I I dabbled, I guess, a little bit. Um, but it started at a very young age. I actually I lied to you. I'm so sorry. I said that that was the only time that I had had a dream, but when I was a a very young kid, I was having dreams all the time about the man with no eyes was his name. And he was just like a if you you know what like when people are fencing, they have that mask that they wear. But that was his face, like he wasn't wearing a mask, that was his face, and he never really like did anything terrible. I think the most terrible thing he ever did in one of my dreams was he brought me downstairs to our basement in another house that we had lived in, and that was it. I mean, the he was just he existed to just be terrifying to me. But I had these chronic nightmares about him for a very, very, very, very long time. And my parents will tell the story that um we were in like JCPenney or something like that, and I pointed to one of the mannequins, terrified, and said, like, oh my gosh, it's the man with no eyes, because they don't really have, or at least back in the 80s dating myself, they didn't have a face, and they were like, Oh, mystery solved. That's that's what it was. But you that's not what it was. I I know still to this day that that's not what that was. I don't know what it was, but when you ask like when did it start, I'm sure I'm pretty sure that was really early. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:14

What about um um like non-dream stuff? Do you ever do you ever um see or hear or sense people who are not? Oh, yeah. Isn't a big yes?

SPEAKER_00 18:30

That's a big yes. So I was at a barbecue at this same aunt that had passed away from breast cancer at her house one time, and I was telling um the the kids' table this story about how the day before I was um we had one of those helium balloons in our house for some event, and it was like kind of like moving along the ceiling or whatever, and it scared me because I was like, oh my god, like something's here, and then um realized, like, oh ha ha, it's just the balloon, like I'm freaking out for nothing. But then I saw like a little girl peeking her head around like corners. I heard her laughing, and then like like did all of the things you're not supposed to do in the horror movies and kind of like went after her to look like who where where is happening? Like, who is this little girl that's in my house? And um, I was telling the story at this barbecue, and one of the adults turned around and said, Don't ever speak of that again. They're a shadow person and you don't want them. Like, I rebuke that, like you rebuke that, you want none of that. And I was like, Okay, like I don't, I don't want this. But it was a little girl who was laughing, like, I can't imagine that it would be an evil thing. And they're like, No, like if they're if they're like that, like you don't want it.

SPEAKER_01 19:40

Okay, that's not that's a that's a that's a significant thing, I think. I I and I don't I'm I'm agreeing with you. I don't that doesn't sound like a shadow person to me, but um, I write paranormal mysteries, and then my tagline for um the two the couple that um in in my books, the fictional couple, loosely based on my husband and I, um, they have a podcast, and their tagline is stay skeptical, but don't run toward the noise. So you ran toward the noise.

SPEAKER_00 20:07

I did. I know I did everything that you're not supposed to do. Like if I was watching myself in the movies, I'd be like, Don't go in there, don't run after her, don't do that. What's wrong with you?

SPEAKER_01 20:17

Yeah, I think you you are. Have you had other experiences where you've seen um people?

SPEAKER_00 20:23

I I joke around with my friends, I'm very intuitive. And I joke around with my friends all the time, and I say, like, this is gonna happen, or this is the truth behind this. And then I kind of jokingly say, like, the ancestors are telling me. Like, that's my way of saying, like, my intuition is telling me, but I truly believe I am being told by my ancestors. And um, I guess they've come to take it as a joke. I don't know if they take me seriously, but it is true. Um, I'm I'm being told that this is gonna happen or this is the the backstory to this, or you know, this person's evil.

SPEAKER_01 20:57

What do you so this kind of along this idea of if your ancestors are telling you or speaking with you or guiding you, right? Spirit guides, ancestors, whatever. What do you think the afterlife is, assuming that we believe that there is an afterlife? Not everybody does, and I'm uh, you know, I don't believe in like the super religious y ones, but you've had experiences that seem to be related to something beyond. What do you think is beyond?

SPEAKER_00 21:28

Um that's a really good question. I think that I want to think that when your time comes, you're given the choice. Like, do you want to just move into this peaceful existence where you don't have to contribute at all and and you can just go into the the kingdom of heaven and be happy? Or do you want to be a guardian angel? Do you want to be somebody who comes to help your loved ones cross over? Do you want to be a spirit guide? Do you want to be, you know, whatever? And then based on your answer, I guess, or you your intent, you're you're split off. And the reason I say that is because um I don't want anybody knocking at my door. But there are there are times and I cannot control it where I do believe that I hear messages from people that had passed on. And my mother um is my biggest skeptic and always says like, I won't believe you until you can tell me something from my mother. And my mother's mother had passed away when my mother was eight. So there's no way I would know anything other than stories that she told me. And I can't like I cannot hear and I can't communicate at all. And I think it's because she has chosen the path of yeah I'm just gonna you know go into my peaceful afterlife and not you know contribute to the spirit guide.

SPEAKER_01 22:46

I love that though. Are you familiar with the concept of a soul contract? I am well I am with my animals. I didn't know if it exists with people. Well I I um I had heard about this a a while ago and didn't really have a a term for it. I was reading some book and it was just kind of um talking about um you know a a per the purpose of a soul and someone would ask the question well what's the purpose of a what's the purpose of purpose of a soul coming and only you know being stillborn or only living for um five days or you know whatever and they said well that's you know their their maybe their contract or their purpose was I just want to feel what it's like to be alive in a human body. But my friend Evie that I mentioned earlier who has been on the show a few couple times she um kind of help helped me um helped explain this idea that if you believe in a soul that um a soul might be out there in whatever you call God the collective source which can would consist of theoretically all the souls right and that you come to a place often earth because um there's a lot of conflict here and a lot of um contrast here so it's a it's according to the um the the so-called experts it's a place it's a good place to come because you you can learn a lot of lessons here yeah so that so that the soul um comes to um in becomes into a human or even sometimes a non-human form to learn some sort of lesson and she told me this in the context of because I was she was telling me how she always she always knows she has a vibe about somebody and it's always true. And I said I you know I get vibes about people not like a a ton but sometimes you get a really strong vibe and I'm usually right but I said one time I was wrong this person this guy who had just rubbed me the wrong way I just couldn't stand him I was young I was probably you know 20 and we I was a waitress and he was started working there and I just couldn't stand him and then one day we um a bunch of us went out and just hung out and I thought oh this is like the nicest guy I love this guy he's so funny and he's just so kind and she said that's probably somebody that you had a you were you've been in you know because you you um if you believe in reincarnation and that kind of thing you tend to um be with similar people the same people kind of come in and out of your life key people and she said you probably were in um knew him from a previous life in another soul contract but since then he has learned lessons so perhaps in this previous existence he was not a nice person or you didn't have a good relationship and then um but now he's in this new place learning a new lesson having learned perhaps you know infinite lessons you know in time and space so anyway interesting tangenting off but that kind of reminded me that when you were when you were talking too so so you sense your ancestors do you is is it anybody in in particular or specific that you I don't think so I just know it goes deep like it goes it goes far back it's not just like you know my aunt who passed away from breast cancer it's there lines of people back that are you know saying things wow any other experiences that you'd like to talk about Corinne um I can't really think of anything off of the top of my head just little things here and there.

SPEAKER_00 26:33

You know sometimes I'll just get intuition about you know you don't want to you don't want to be here and nothing does happen, thank goodness and you just never know like would something have happened like I don't have one of those stories where like oh I I turned right when everything was telling me to turn left and then there was a serial killer on that street. Like I don't I think that every time I've turned right is because there was probably a reason to turn right from trouble and there was no more trouble to be had after that.

SPEAKER_01 27:00

So do you get um since I was just talking about it do you get vibes from from living people?

SPEAKER_00 27:09

Oh yeah yeah I can tell you all about yourself in five minutes yeah that I was wrong about somebody too my my best friend in the entire world we hated each other when we first met each other and um wound up I met her when I think I was 12 maybe she was 11 and we're still friends to this day I'm not gonna tell you how old I am now but it's a very it's a very long time that we've been friends. So she was the only person that I was wrong about. But what you said was very interesting.

SPEAKER_01 27:41

Yeah um well I and I I think that there can be of course human exist in the in the here and now reasons because I I had a I have a really good very one of my closest friends but he was he's about 10 years younger than me and he he actually went to school with my sister who is almost 10 years younger than me and they were really close but he would come over to our house and he was just bitter and we we were like bitter enemies like we just I you know his energy and but then he came out because he's he's gay uh and now you know happily married and um and once that happened it was like he was a whole different person and now we're like you know I was his best bitch at his wedding and you know so it's so there are there are things there are psychological and and you know situational things um as to why um people can just give off right but this the the the thing with this other guy is he didn't he wasn't doing anything or um giving off like he wasn't acting like a total jerk like with with my friend yeah we were like we fought and it was he was we were both very you know bitter sarcastic and you know I was probably going through things and he was probably going through things but um with this other guy it was like he was perfectly nice and I just there was just something about him that I didn't it was like like visceral. I just hated him and then and then like had this weird turnaround where I was like this this guy's actually really nice and and fun. So I don't know weird weird shit.

SPEAKER_00 29:17

Yeah I think sometimes um you know there's I don't know if it's a theory or if it's science or whatever, but they talk about how our brain really only unlock unlocks a certain amount of things. Yeah. And I think um maybe sometimes how we feel about people or even sometimes um dreaming could be interpreted as a dream when it's not a dream because our brain doesn't know how else to reconcile it. So this feeling that you had about this person could have been a different feeling in a different state of consciousness or a different timeline or different life or whatever. But your brain now doesn't know how to reconcile it because it's not open to that part of yeah you know this life. I mean you know even scientifically like I even think um and I've said this people who listen to the show are going to be like oh here she goes again with the dark energy but I am just fascinated with like dark energy, dark matter, which is you know I don't know if you know anything about dark energy but um you know it's out there it's we know it has to be there because um but we don't really know a lot about it and and I just you know there are some theories around things like um dark energy in relationship to paranormal events and absolutely so I don't know there's just there's so much um there's so much out there we don't know and I think I think someday we will scientifically um understand more um than we do I hope so yeah I hope you're really because I have so many questions what do if you had a burning question what would your burning question be um I guess um the first thing that popped in my head was like do aliens exist is there another life form in other planets that are looking at us and laughing or are they learning from us? Could they be worse off? I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 31:09

Well you know that's that's a whole that could be a whole episode because I've talked with quite a few of my guests about aliens and um but I also I'm I'm a lover I love Neil deGrasse Tyson I love um Professor Brian Cox and they talk um and and and there's a and there's a name for it I can't think what the name um of this it's like a some sort of dilemma but if you look at how life evolved on earth if every time I listen to somebody it feels both equally possible and impossible that there are would be another species like us or even in just intelligent right there's absolutely 100% we know life but life in the microbial form is different than evolved like us and in a relatively short period of time we evolved from like one cell to what we are now but life existed for very very long time almost since the beginning of the when the earth was formed so it's just it's it's one of those things like it's like it's so big that it's hard for me to comprehend this idea that that even just within our galaxy there are like four billion suns and and solar systems and and the the idea that like there would be no intelligent life but also we are so far away there could have been life and you know like a star that we see that could have a planet that had life you know might be a million light years away and a million years is plenty of time for a species to come and go. So even if there were it might be too late like we might be seeing that light when the species is already I mean it's just it's kind of mindful now I have more questions but I also think of things like um like dark energy like could that play into things like wormholes right because we know in space and time the distance is so great that that does put kind of put a different spin on like in the here and now for us is not in the here and now for perhaps another life form that is a you know a a million light years away but there are there are wormholes there are what black holes one theory is what's on the other side of a black hole another universe well could there be a way to you know I don't know so yeah there's so many things and so many questions I could do a whole thing on that but but I just don't know enough but I just like thinking about it. Anyway Corinne thank you so much for joining today I so appreciate this was so fun no I appreciate you reaching out a lot yeah I'm so glad we hooked up and we got to ask I got to ask you some questions about your experience and I appreciate your sharing in the details yeah this is very fun so thank you for having me. Yeah thanks for joining this episode of Something Weird Happened here. If you have a twisted tale that you witnessed experienced or heard from a reliable source go to Bethancampbell.com slash something weird to learn more and submit your story. If your tale is twisted enough we'll share it on air during one of our episodes and might even invite you to be a guest on the show. And we're not picky. Your something weird happened here could be paranormal psychic UFOs, near death experiences, dreams, parallel dimensions, bigfoot chupacabra, or any other weird and unexplained phenomena we don't discriminate. If you're into paranormal mysteries that are scary, fun and realistic, pick up a copy of my latest book, The RIP Files Case of the Demon Drums, the first in a series inspired by real cases that I, Bethane Campbell, worked on when I was a ghost hunter for nearly a decade. Case of the Demon Drums is available on Amazon and most online bookstores. And finally we would so appreciate it if you would rate and review us on your favorite streaming platform andor on YouTube. Thanks again and remember stay skeptical but don't run towards the noise